Welcome!

Silverlight Authors: Yeshim Deniz, Greg O'Connor, Trevor Parsons, Sandi Mappic, Liz McMillan

Related Topics: Silverlight, Java, ColdFusion, AJAX & REA, AJAXWorld RIA Conference & Expo, Video, iPhone

Silverlight: Article

Silverlight 2 - Adobe Flex Killer Is on Its Way!

Silverlight 2.0 kicks ass and I can't wait to start dropping more hardcore blog posts regarding it

First off, let me just say that I've been waiting for this day for almost a year now. When Silverlight 1.0 came out, I was terribly disappointed but I was also really eager as well. I saw potential in that JavaScript-only cross-platform runtime. When Silverlight 1.1 came out (which I think was actually only a few days after 1.0) as an alpha, I was even more intrigued and excited. Sure, it had no controls, no layout panels, and no data binding, and very little networking support - but it ran with a .NET CLR back-end, and it was cross-platform. I was writing C# code in Visual Studio that would eventually run (and could be debugged!!) on Safari on Mac OS X.

Now the first of what I consider the true Silverlight releases is here - Silverlight 2.0 Beta 1. Microsoft has been getting an unfair onslaught of bad press from developers regarding Silverlight. In the good old days, we used to slam and insult Microsoft for taking too damn long to come out with releases, and the releases they gave us were incomplete and didn't have what we wanted. So Microsoft actually listened and with Silverlight and some other recent projects, they are adopting a "Release Early, Release Often" methodology where we're getting premature bits so that Microsoft can solicit vital feedback before releasing the actual betas. So instead of thanking Microsoft for giving us early access to this stuff, we end up giving Microsoft even more crap for "releasing half-baked product".

Silverlight 2.0 kicks ass and I can't wait to start dropping more hardcore blog posts regarding it. Scott Guthrie's tutorials are a fantastic place to start. The issue I have, however, is that all of the tutorials assume you have installed Silverlight 2.0 tools for VS 2008. There is a small issue with that and I'm not sure everyone's aware of it.

First, you must not install the SDK or Silverlight 2.0 runtime if you plan on installing the VS 2008 tools. The VS 2008 tool installer is a chain install that gives you everything, and actually requires that nothing be previously installed. Second, the Silverlight 2.0 Beta 1 tools for VS 2008 installer requires the presence of your original VS 2008 installation media! This might have easily been overlooked in testing. When you are installing the VS 2008 tools for Silverlight, it actually looks for the file vs_install.msi. If you don't have this, you're screwed. Thankfully I keep expanded ISO images on a spare USB hard drive for just such an occasion, but it was damn frustrating until I figured out what was going on.

So, if you make sure you're working off a clean system that has nothing Silverlight-related installed, and you've got VS 2008 installed and the "Visual Web Developer" option for VS 2008, then you're good to go. Also, I believe these tools will not work on the Express editions of VS 2008 - you need the full-blown Pro or better edition.

I'll be posting more on Silverlight 2.0 in the coming days and weeks, provided I can find enough spare time to squeeze it in between all the other stuff I'm doing. I am very excited about finally getting my hands on this release and I hope everyone else is too!

tags:        
links: digg this  del.icio.us  technorati  reddit

More Stories By Kevin Hoffman

Kevin Hoffman, editor-in-chief of SYS-CON's iPhone Developer's Journal, has been programming since he was 10 and has written everything from DOS shareware to n-tier, enterprise web applications in VB, C++, Delphi, and C. Hoffman is coauthor of Professional .NET Framework (Wrox Press) and co-author with Robert Foster of Microsoft SharePoint 2007 Development Unleashed. He authors The .NET Addict's Blog at .NET Developer's Journal.

Comments (23) View Comments

Share your thoughts on this story.

Add your comment
You must be signed in to add a comment. Sign-in | Register

In accordance with our Comment Policy, we encourage comments that are on topic, relevant and to-the-point. We will remove comments that include profanity, personal attacks, racial slurs, threats of violence, or other inappropriate material that violates our Terms and Conditions, and will block users who make repeated violations. We ask all readers to expect diversity of opinion and to treat one another with dignity and respect.


Most Recent Comments
Karel 05/30/08 06:46:24 AM EDT

You [REDACTED] stupid! Have you heard about moonlight?

Chris 04/24/08 10:11:22 AM EDT

Hey DirkDiggler:

I'd respond to your post, but I'm too busy converting all my ColdFusion and Flex apps to Adobe AIR.

Erik 04/24/08 10:04:39 AM EDT

This is like a drug commercial - one claim (kicks ass!) and a whole page of disclaimers about how you're screwed if you don't install it correctly. Silverlight is misnamed - nothing Microsoft puts out is compatible with them term "light" - should be call SilverHeavy, or maybe Silverlight is a code word for SilverVaporware...

DirkDiggler 04/15/08 08:12:37 PM EDT

RIA's - be they Silverlight or Flex - aren't poised to take over now or anytime in the foreseeable future...Unless you're a multi-media company, there's no real business reason for re-writing well-designed web apps on proven technologies. Just hype to sell products by both MS and Adobe alike.

Tom Van den Eynde 04/13/08 05:17:00 PM EDT

What a lousy article. There's nothing in there that tells the reader WHY Silverlight would be the Adobe Flex killer. Just more FUD from a Microsoftie.

echo7 04/10/08 03:48:19 PM EDT

The reason why Silverlight is better then the old flash/flex is in the XAML. The fact that you can write your own animation or RIA application with simple notepad is in itself awesome. Instead of having the overbloated flash app to develop you can use a variaty of application to write XAML. My pridiction is that Adobe will fold and create the abilty to create XAML from within their own applications. FLASH is just too closed in.

Christopher 04/10/08 03:06:25 PM EDT

jimm, you socialists are all the same.

BTW, Barack Obama is a looser and you know it.

jimm 04/10/08 03:02:52 PM EDT

How do you make technology available to everyone? and, deliver its promise!? STOP using M$oft! Period! Now! They are holding back tech adoption (benefit) world wide!

Ali Abuzayyad 04/09/08 04:20:50 PM EDT

.net will be available on all platforms in time. especially on linux, when the bsd/linux community at yahoo starts working for microsoft.

Tommy B 04/09/08 03:55:14 AM EDT

This article is just friggin lame. To use a title like "Adobe Flex Killer is on Its Way!" I was expecting to see some actual facts or at least some good points that would even give Silverlight a chance of doing what the title said. Nothing. Just some M$ nuthugger who wants to hang on to his ancient code with both hands and is just so excited that M$ is just trying to come up with a way for him to do that. I would love to see some actual Flex apps this tool has done. AND LMFAO at you hopers and dreamers that think Silverlight WILL EVER reach the number of machines flex and flash do.

HAHAHAHAA 04/08/08 01:17:05 PM EDT

Adobe Flex killer? ROFLMAO

Not only is that completely retarded - but why the hate for Flex? Is your hate for Flex based on, oh I dunno, any sort of facts, shortcomings, or flaws... or just because you're a Microsoft fanboy? I've yet to hear something from a "Silverlight developer" that makes me say, "Oh wow, I wish Flex could do that!"

ROFFLE !

.net 03/31/08 02:30:55 PM EDT

.net clr in the browser is huge!!! This means developers can create enterprise applications with silverlight and have all of the .net classes (ie System.Threading, System.Linq, Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Data;
Microsoft.Practices.EnterpriseLibrary.Data.Sql, etc., etc., .......)

This is huge. Savvy!

anthony 03/19/08 09:02:20 PM EDT

ah please. right now silverlight is so yesterday.

Chris 03/17/08 02:43:30 PM EDT

"Siverlight, I fart in your general direction."

diesel 03/16/08 05:13:25 PM EDT

I have got a good list for all SilverLight haters: Netscape, Lotus 1-2-3, WordPerfect, MacOS, Borland IDE etc... Just b/c Flash appeared earlier in the market doesn't mean nothing in front of M$. Flash doesn't have outstanding stuff in its sleeves, and that Action Script is a turbo charged javascript that sux big time. Adobe is not famous for having the best language designers, compiler writers or virtual machine builders. Flash/Flex will be going down and eventually ends up as another member of that list.

Chris Walker 03/15/08 08:29:53 PM EDT

There is a lot to say about first to market. Flex 3.0 and LiveCycle ES will own Silverlight. I love Microsoft, but they aren't going to undo 15 years of Flash technology.

C. Walker

Director, Adobe RIA Competency Labs

BBL Leasing
Bridgeville, PA

Chris 03/12/08 09:30:07 AM EDT

You guys are all MS haters and wouldn't know great technology if it smacked you in the head. Come on now
- Cross platform support
- Fast RIA development (without Javascript)
- CLR in the browser (did you just hear what I just said..CLR in the browser) This is probably the best thing about Silverlight.

Reguardless of how much you guys hate you can't stop this train... Silverlight will succeed on its own merit with or without you haters. Ms has a home run with this one and your mad because you never saw it coming.

Sincerly,
C# Fan

Nick 03/12/08 06:34:03 AM EDT

It's not cross-platform - it's Windows mainly, Apple secondarily, Unix never, Linux never. I'm interested only in tools that are fully cross-platform. This crap will never "kill" anything.

Ralf 03/11/08 06:06:53 PM EDT

Actually I did not need the VS 2008 installation media when using the Chainer to install all the tools to develope Silverlight 2.0 applications. Maybe it depends on prerequisites which were not available on your specific machine?

Tony C 03/11/08 05:05:18 PM EDT

What a stupid article. It is clear the autjor has no idea about Adobe Flex. Siverlight is a Jonny come later product that will only be used by people in pure windows enviornment which is nobody in Corporate America

dinter 03/11/08 11:10:40 AM EDT

Hey, John. Did you see the part saying "running C# in Safari" and you laughed at it cross-platform ability? SilverLight is going to whip Flex or any other silly HTML-oriented Web Apps. M$ is positioned to hit a grand slam here.

John 03/10/08 07:14:29 PM EDT

What an idiot! "Flex Killer"??? Right. Hey Kev...you ever heard the word "cross-platform"?

Silverlight News Desk 03/06/08 01:10:14 PM EST

Silverlight 2.0 kicks ass and I can't wait to start dropping more hardcore blog posts regarding it. Scott Guthrie's tutorials are a fantastic place to start. The issue I have, however, is that all of the tutorials assume you have installed Silverlight 2.0 tools for VS 2008. There is a small issue with that and I'm not sure everyone's aware of it.

@ThingsExpo Stories
The Internet of Things is a misnomer. That implies that everything is on the Internet, and that simply should not be - especially for things that are blurring the line between medical devices that stimulate like a pacemaker and quantified self-sensors like a pedometer or pulse tracker. The mesh of things that we manage must be segmented into zones of trust for sensing data, transmitting data, receiving command and control administrative changes, and peer-to-peer mesh messaging. In his session at @ThingsExpo, Ryan Bagnulo, Solution Architect / Software Engineer at SOA Software, focused on desi...
"At our booth we are showing how to provide trust in the Internet of Things. Trust is where everything starts to become secure and trustworthy. Now with the scaling of the Internet of Things it becomes an interesting question – I've heard numbers from 200 billion devices next year up to a trillion in the next 10 to 15 years," explained Johannes Lintzen, Vice President of Sales at Utimaco, in this SYS-CON.tv interview at @ThingsExpo, held Nov 4–6, 2014, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.
"For over 25 years we have been working with a lot of enterprise customers and we have seen how companies create applications. And now that we have moved to cloud computing, mobile, social and the Internet of Things, we see that the market needs a new way of creating applications," stated Jesse Shiah, CEO, President and Co-Founder of AgilePoint Inc., in this SYS-CON.tv interview at 15th Cloud Expo, held Nov 4–6, 2014, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.
SYS-CON Events announced today that Gridstore™, the leader in hyper-converged infrastructure purpose-built to optimize Microsoft workloads, will exhibit at SYS-CON's 16th International Cloud Expo®, which will take place on June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY. Gridstore™ is the leader in hyper-converged infrastructure purpose-built for Microsoft workloads and designed to accelerate applications in virtualized environments. Gridstore’s hyper-converged infrastructure is the industry’s first all flash version of HyperConverged Appliances that include both compute and storag...
"People are a lot more knowledgeable about APIs now. There are two types of people who work with APIs - IT people who want to use APIs for something internal and the product managers who want to do something outside APIs for people to connect to them," explained Roberto Medrano, Executive Vice President at SOA Software, in this SYS-CON.tv interview at Cloud Expo, held Nov 4–6, 2014, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.
Today’s enterprise is being driven by disruptive competitive and human capital requirements to provide enterprise application access through not only desktops, but also mobile devices. To retrofit existing programs across all these devices using traditional programming methods is very costly and time consuming – often prohibitively so. In his session at @ThingsExpo, Jesse Shiah, CEO, President, and Co-Founder of AgilePoint Inc., discussed how you can create applications that run on all mobile devices as well as laptops and desktops using a visual drag-and-drop application – and eForms-buildi...
We certainly live in interesting technological times. And no more interesting than the current competing IoT standards for connectivity. Various standards bodies, approaches, and ecosystems are vying for mindshare and positioning for a competitive edge. It is clear that when the dust settles, we will have new protocols, evolved protocols, that will change the way we interact with devices and infrastructure. We will also have evolved web protocols, like HTTP/2, that will be changing the very core of our infrastructures. At the same time, we have old approaches made new again like micro-services...
Code Halos - aka "digital fingerprints" - are the key organizing principle to understand a) how dumb things become smart and b) how to monetize this dynamic. In his session at @ThingsExpo, Robert Brown, AVP, Center for the Future of Work at Cognizant Technology Solutions, outlined research, analysis and recommendations from his recently published book on this phenomena on the way leading edge organizations like GE and Disney are unlocking the Internet of Things opportunity and what steps your organization should be taking to position itself for the next platform of digital competition.
The 3rd International Internet of @ThingsExpo, co-located with the 16th International Cloud Expo - to be held June 9-11, 2015, at the Javits Center in New York City, NY - announces that its Call for Papers is now open. The Internet of Things (IoT) is the biggest idea since the creation of the Worldwide Web more than 20 years ago.
As the Internet of Things unfolds, mobile and wearable devices are blurring the line between physical and digital, integrating ever more closely with our interests, our routines, our daily lives. Contextual computing and smart, sensor-equipped spaces bring the potential to walk through a world that recognizes us and responds accordingly. We become continuous transmitters and receivers of data. In his session at @ThingsExpo, Andrew Bolwell, Director of Innovation for HP's Printing and Personal Systems Group, discussed how key attributes of mobile technology – touch input, sensors, social, and ...
In their session at @ThingsExpo, Shyam Varan Nath, Principal Architect at GE, and Ibrahim Gokcen, who leads GE's advanced IoT analytics, focused on the Internet of Things / Industrial Internet and how to make it operational for business end-users. Learn about the challenges posed by machine and sensor data and how to marry it with enterprise data. They also discussed the tips and tricks to provide the Industrial Internet as an end-user consumable service using Big Data Analytics and Industrial Cloud.
Building low-cost wearable devices can enhance the quality of our lives. In his session at Internet of @ThingsExpo, Sai Yamanoor, Embedded Software Engineer at Altschool, provided an example of putting together a small keychain within a $50 budget that educates the user about the air quality in their surroundings. He also provided examples such as building a wearable device that provides transit or recreational information. He then reviewed the resources available to build wearable devices at home including open source hardware, the raw materials required and the options available to power s...
Things are being built upon cloud foundations to transform organizations. This CEO Power Panel at 15th Cloud Expo, moderated by Roger Strukhoff, Cloud Expo and @ThingsExpo conference chair, addressed the big issues involving these technologies and, more important, the results they will achieve. Rodney Rogers, chairman and CEO of Virtustream; Brendan O'Brien, co-founder of Aria Systems, Bart Copeland, president and CEO of ActiveState Software; Jim Cowie, chief scientist at Dyn; Dave Wagstaff, VP and chief architect at BSQUARE Corporation; Seth Proctor, CTO of NuoDB, Inc.; and Andris Gailitis, C...
There's Big Data, then there's really Big Data from the Internet of Things. IoT is evolving to include many data possibilities like new types of event, log and network data. The volumes are enormous, generating tens of billions of logs per day, which raise data challenges. Early IoT deployments are relying heavily on both the cloud and managed service providers to navigate these challenges. In her session at Big Data Expo®, Hannah Smalltree, Director at Treasure Data, discussed how IoT, Big Data and deployments are processing massive data volumes from wearables, utilities and other machines...
"There is a natural synchronization between the business models, the IoT is there to support ,” explained Brendan O'Brien, Co-founder and Chief Architect of Aria Systems, in this SYS-CON.tv interview at the 15th International Cloud Expo®, held Nov 4–6, 2014, at the Santa Clara Convention Center in Santa Clara, CA.
SYS-CON Media announced that Splunk, a provider of the leading software platform for real-time Operational Intelligence, has launched an ad campaign on Big Data Journal. Splunk software and cloud services enable organizations to search, monitor, analyze and visualize machine-generated big data coming from websites, applications, servers, networks, sensors and mobile devices. The ads focus on delivering ROI - how improved uptime delivered $6M in annual ROI, improving customer operations by mining large volumes of unstructured data, and how data tracking delivers uptime when it matters most.
In this Women in Technology Power Panel at 15th Cloud Expo, moderated by Anne Plese, Senior Consultant, Cloud Product Marketing at Verizon Enterprise, Esmeralda Swartz, CMO at MetraTech; Evelyn de Souza, Data Privacy and Compliance Strategy Leader at Cisco Systems; Seema Jethani, Director of Product Management at Basho Technologies; Victoria Livschitz, CEO of Qubell Inc.; Anne Hungate, Senior Director of Software Quality at DIRECTV, discussed what path they took to find their spot within the technology industry and how do they see opportunities for other women in their area of expertise.
While great strides have been made relative to the video aspects of remote collaboration, audio technology has basically stagnated. Typically all audio is mixed to a single monaural stream and emanates from a single point, such as a speakerphone or a speaker associated with a video monitor. This leads to confusion and lack of understanding among participants especially regarding who is actually speaking. Spatial teleconferencing introduces the concept of acoustic spatial separation between conference participants in three dimensional space. This has been shown to significantly improve comprehe...
The Industrial Internet revolution is now underway, enabled by connected machines and billions of devices that communicate and collaborate. The massive amounts of Big Data requiring real-time analysis is flooding legacy IT systems and giving way to cloud environments that can handle the unpredictable workloads. Yet many barriers remain until we can fully realize the opportunities and benefits from the convergence of machines and devices with Big Data and the cloud, including interoperability, data security and privacy.
Performance is the intersection of power, agility, control, and choice. If you value performance, and more specifically consistent performance, you need to look beyond simple virtualized compute. Many factors need to be considered to create a truly performant environment. In his General Session at 15th Cloud Expo, Harold Hannon, Sr. Software Architect at SoftLayer, discussed how to take advantage of a multitude of compute options and platform features to make cloud the cornerstone of your online presence.